I first ran into Aron Ra at the Texas school book hearings two years ago. He was among those stepping up to comment on the ongoing textbook foolishness. His YouTube channel is a well-crafted source of comment on religion and its fits of folly. He recently posted on rampant dysfunction in rural Texas schools:
Amber Barnhill recently moved her kids to a small south eastern Texas town called the city of China. There she found out what Lilandra and I have been complaining about for so long. All the local schools push their Christian religion. They do it overtly, during school hours, and as part of all curricular activities. They put crosses everywhere, promote prayer in every activity, and even have the elder students preaching to the younger ones as part of their daily morning assembly. There the students are required to learn and rehearse Bible verses. Welcome back to the dark ages.
So Amber complained to the school, and her complaint was largely ignored. Worse though, she got a lot of hate on social media, as you might expect; including quite a lot of threats from religious reactionaries who seemed as though they wanted to lynch her. None of these religious reactionaries had any idea what the issue even is. The zealots imposing their religion in public schools never understand that they’re even doing anything wrong. They think they’re being oppressed or attacked if they’re disallowed from indoctrinating everyone else’s kids. And it doesn’t help that all the kids in town have already been indoctrinated. Because they don’t understand what the problem is either, and and secular government requirement will invariably be seen as some sort of victimization, which feeds right into the typical Christian persecution complex. People like this never seem to understand the necessity of secular government until or unless they have to give fair consideration to Muslims. Then suddenly the Christians leap over to my side of the political spectrum, demanding separation of church and state just as I do. Hypocrites.
Aron, real name L. Aron Nelson, has posted two relevant clips on his channel, and a viewing is enlightening. The first is from a presentation on separation of church and state, and it features Amber Barnhill’s story. Of interest is the collection of graphics Aron has pasted into the clip. Many are screen shots from Facebook postings, apparently postings by local people. I will show some of the clippings and comment on a few. Watch the video for the complete story:
Apparently this is a typical school-sponsored activity in China, Texas.
Hawks For Christ is promoted by the school.
Religion, particularly the Christian sect, seems to be promoted to the exclusion of all others.
The reason for drilling in on the interviewee’s distinctive hand marking is not clear.
Many of the Facebook postings are worth archiving. I will post the text to make it easier for search engines to find.
Brandi time to get the pitch forks out lol
Tina besides pitch forks are so out dated, I would rather use my AR 15.
Just better leave us country folks alone! what happins when you mess with fire, of course you get burned, what happins when you mess with setx christians? you burn at the end of my rope! just leave us country folks alone!!!!!!!!!!!
I may have miscounted the exclamation remarks, but I did not miscount the failings in English grammar. Some people in China, Texas, have not suffered the benefits of an elementary school education.
I say we go protest in barnhills front yard
4 hours ago via mobile
Jacob Boudreaux Lol whoever it was that tried to bring Kountze cheerleaders to court ended up settling outside of court… so yes, the Kountze cheerleaders won… and our great Governor just signed the Merry Christmas bill… I think its about time all democrats evacuate Texas… I don’t understand why democrats and atheists and others want to come to a Christian Conservative state like Texas and then try to change it… it will never happen, Texas will forever remain Texas, and if it changes, the end will soon follow.
Jacob Boudreaux does not understand why Democrats and atheists want to come to Texas? Maybe most of them were born and raised in Texas. Like in small town Texas. Even a town smaller than China, Texas.
We may never know why “if it changes, the end will soon follow.”
These people that complain about prayer in school should be sent to live in a 3rd world country that wasn’t founded on fundamental Christian beliefs. I don’t recall any children being hurt or winding up
In prisonn from too much prayer!! Just saying…
It’s past time for people to stand up to those who hate God! We are a Christian nation–they can just get over it!
Passing over for the moment the fact that many protesting what the local government is doing are people of faith, mostly Christians.
Who was it that complained? Someone of someone know who it is!!!! PLEASE,,, OH PLEASE,,, Place there name here on FACEBOOK!!! That way we know who and what the problem is!!!
By removing the book is DISCRIMINATION against my beliefs!!! Mr. Holmes needs to return the books before he has a bigger problem in his hands!!!
Often times a single exclamation mark will not do. Apparently neither will an elementary school education.
1 Atheist parent has contacted Freedom FROM Religion Foundation and sent photos of my kid’s book fair at school of books containing the words “God’, “prayer”, etc etc. The group contacted the superintendent, he went to the school late at night and pulled books off the library shelves. contacted the principle, and instructed her to continue in pulling of books.
This parent has communicated that she wants her child to have the right to choose what he/she believes when she is in fact the one taking that right away from him/her.
SLE PARENTS: Your book fair is next week and you should all know that all books containing anything religious have already been pulled. However, I’m sure you will have an abundance of books with tales of witchcraft, ghosts, demons, zombies, violence, sex, and evolution.
Skipping over “principle” versus “principal,” let’s go to books about witchcraft, ghosts, demons, zombies, violence, sex, and evolution. That would sound a lot like the Bible. Except for the part about evolution, of which the Bible remains clueless.
Little Blessings Thanks to all of you who purchased the FCA/HFC t-shirts. YOU made FOF possible! Come out and Let Your Light Shine For All The World To See….
China Elementary science teacher
September 29, 2014 Beaumont, TX
Hawks for Christ at CE is meeting at 7:30 in the morning in the gym. It’s going to be an exciting time. Be looking for further information in the next week on the positive things God is doing in HFC. God is doing a mighty work through something that was intended to harm. Continue to support your students as they exercise their right to worship!
But no weapon that is used against you will succeed. People might bring charges against you. But you will prove that they are wrong. Those are the things I do for my servants. I make everything right for them,” announces the Lord.—Isaiah 54:17
Great verse to remember as we prepare for FOF. The enemy has and will continue to attack, but the battle is already won. May we stand firm as we act accordingly to bring God glory!
Like · Comment In a private HFC group for “students and parents”
The FFRF is a group of radical uneducated hate mongering fools that is no different than the west bureau Baptist church. Piss on them and tell them I said it!
Like · Reply September 29 at 9:07 pm
I hope this writer meant so say “Westboro Baptist Church” and not what he actually said.
This is a two-part snip. The scene is from Aron’s video, showing the FFRF panel presentation.
Freedom from religion can file a lot off lawsuits in HE–.
I presume that would be “lawsuits in HELL.”
These people go under the word atheists but they are communist! Christians had better start standing up against the devil before it is to late ! GOD BLESS AMERICA
Dawn Hardt This is the first I’ve heard of this & my kids all go to HJISD schools. It seems strange that this request was immediately fulfilled. That Atheist must have some pull!
March 19 at 7:46 pm
Atheists or not, whoever seems to be challenging school policy that promotes religion has powerful pull. That pull would be the Constitution of the United States. The First Amendment clearly prohibits using government power for promoting religion. Apparently the administration of this school district is violating the law. There aren’t many ways around the consequences.
This item from Kelly was possibly directed toward Amber Barnhill, but I was unable to confirm she is the same Amber Barnhill who has this business in nearby Beaumont, Texas.
I hope your business has suffered for the anti-Christian thing you did.
2 hours ago near Aledo, TX
Aledo is hundreds of miles from China, Texas. In fact, it is next door to where I was raised, and it’s the home of gonzo historian David Barton.
Wow just wow … Wth people really this is BS . I would not allow just a hand full of devils to change my schools beliefs … All these foreigners and atheists can go jump on the nearest boat out of America… Pfft
Let me see if I have this straight. Government officials set themselves out to violate the law, and some people complain. And the ones who complain are called devils and not the people breaking the law.
Regarding foreigners and atheists, that would include me, born in Texas. Father born in Texas. His father born in Texas. My great grandmother born in Texas about the time Texas became independent from Mexico. I need to go back to where I came from?
CHRISTIANS UNITE…these haters are the MINORITY and BULLIES!!!
“Haters” seems to be word loosely bandied about. It’s becoming apparent from the language of these posts who is doing the bullying.
Take ur urself and ur kids to a muslim school r better yet country …i bet u wont do that eigther u just want to be o tv…if i were the teacher i would say im sorry for a prayer …
I’m thinking this one does not require additional comment.
Its a prayer in school, if ya dont want to pray then dont, simple as f*** , ya dont wanna see a cross then dont look at it, simple as f***, its as much a right for believers to do it ANYWHERE as it is non believers ANYWHERE, fckin jackasses
Allow me to pause a moment. I’m temporarily overcome by the blessings of Christian love.
Since your letterhead states you are from Madison, WI..Maybe you should mind your own business their in Wisconsin. My Ma always said, “you dont go spoiling for a fight, but if a fight is brought to your doorstep then I reckon you better handle it.” I dont really think Texas is where you want to bring the fight..just my opinion..
Once again, I’m from Texas, and I’m staying. You’re going to hear more from me until you decide to get your affairs in order.
Bla bla bla, You are insane just like your fellow atheist kind, if we had MORE religion not less, our world would have better morals, we would grow up with less selfishness and be kinder to others, we wouldn’t be bullying or being oppressors, you are trying to make this a big issue out of this, otherwise you would have just complained to the school. You are a bully !
No further comment.
I’m just finishing a Bible Study by MaryJo Sharp called “Why Do You Believe That?” It has been an incredible study as I’ve been faced with personal attacks and also seen the attacks on our schools in this study, there is a page dedicated to engaging in conversation with an FFRF member. One of the main points is as follows: “By touting the terms ‘separation of church and state’ the FFRF has missed the broader underlying philosophical issue, which is about the state imposing a particular worldview on the citizen. By definition, atheism is a world view, as is every other religion. The state cannot enforce the practice of atheism or even enforce the practice of the appearance of an atheistic state according to the establishment and the exercise clauses of the U.S. constitution.” I find this point extremely important to us as Christians. We must be able to converse in love with opposing viewpoints in order to point them to the Truth of Christ. I pray God gives us courage to stand firm, converse in love, and present Truth even to people who attack us. We must gain knowledge in what we believe in order to confront opposition. As we continue to pray for this atheist group, may we also pray for opportunities to share Christ in ways that show the fallacies of this group’s beliefs. May Christians join together and stand for what is right. Our Constitution states we have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. May God receive the glory as we represent His Truth!
October 21, 2014 at 5:21 pm
I have transcribed the foregoing to the best of my abilities, and the transcription is exact. I have left in place the notable language oddities.
Beth wants to tell us that FFRF has missed the broader philosophical issue. What Beth has done is to miss the even broader issue. That broader issue is a government entity is in violation of the law, and the violations need to stop. Officials of this school district are using tax money, collected from taxpayers under force of law, said law backed up by the power of the United States Government, and using that tax money to promote a narrow religious doctrine. This is something that was made illegal over 200 years ago. Some people have yet to figure this out.
To belabor the point, religion is not being opposed here. What is being opposed is the illegal activity of taking people’s tax money and using it to promote religion.
Enough is enough. This is a small community, small school that is overwhelmingly Christian. I refuse for one person’s right to believe or not believe to overshadow my child’s right to read which books she chooses.
The only people that stand up for anything lately are those wanting handouts and those that have zero faith, morals, or beliefs. We are on a very slippery slope of standing by and watching God taken away, please use your time to contact these groups and simply ask to be represented, instead of complaining and arguing online. It only takes a few mins for your voice to be heard. I’m doing it right now.
Repeating myself, people with “zero faith, morals, or beliefs?” Shall we talk about people shedding their morals as they subvert the law and use tax money to promote a particular religion?
Speaking of small school schools and a small community. Dover, Pennsylvania, is a small community, and the Dover Area School District is a small district. The illegal activities of that school board cost the tax payers over a million dollars in court expenses in a case decided ten years ago.
With Connie Perkins and 34 others
OK not much really hacks me off but here it is….Hardin Jefferson ISD is in trouble again with one, count them, one, athiest parent that has caused a stink in the library. All Christian books, Easter, Christmas, any that mention God, Jesus, prayer, ANYTHING Christian, must be pulled off the shelves. The book fair books were also pulled. We need y’all on board to stop this!!!
Yeah, I’ll let this one slide. I’m leaving the language failures as I found them. Better is to come.
And my response to Barnhill is “you leesboe Kayunt, you can suck my fat, hairy, awrse if you don’t like it…..” The United States of America was founded on Christian principles but the framers of our Constitution had good sense to forbid the creation of State Church to avoid religious squabbles that plagued England since the time of the protestant deformation. So I would expect to hearing references to Jesus Christ and other Christian terminology in our American society during my lifetime and not going to have a stroke every time someone invokes the name of the Second Person the Most Blessed Trinity.
Again, overwhelmed by the love of Christ, I’m going to allow the language failures to lie as they fell.
Jealous???.because God is blessing our district and protecting OUR KIDS!! Leave us alone! You have barked up the wrong tree!!! This community will come at you fully loaded and ready to battle!! Back off!! We’ve done NOTHING for you to come and get in our kids business!!!!! These kids chime to this school because the WANT to. No-one forced them to live here and attend this particular school. back off!!!####
What particularly strikes me about this is that nobody forced the kids to live in the school district. That is hot stuff! When I was a kid nobody, but no body, asked me where I wanted to live.
Jacob Boudreaux If you do reward them, that proves what kind of person you are… God does love us unconditionally, and he wants us to want him, we have our whole lives to do so, but if you do not chose him, he will not chose you… why would he bring you to Heaven when you did not earn your spot???? Instead, you earned a spot in Hell, so that’s where he sends you
Here’s a view of the treaty between our new nation and a Muslim government.
Laws who cares about laws our president breaks them every day. If you don’t believe in God then I will buy you a ticket to Iraq. Have fun with that.
September 28 at 10:12 pm
Maybe I should take this person up on his offer. Problem, it’s likely not a serious offer.
I am offended by the belief systems of these atheists. They attempt to dictate what can or can’t be said all the time now. Go make your own worthless school.
The short answer to this note is that it’s not atheists calling the shots. It’s the laws of this country that this person has issue with. Regarding an atheist school, we already have one. It’s called The United States Military Academy at West Point. Religion is not taught there.
I grew up in & attended that district & it fires me up to see someone come along & write some stupid pointless article about how illegal it is for them to do what they’ve been doing for years. I graduated from high school close to 10 years ago. I attended Hawks for Christ several times, you don’t like that they’re doing this stuff, then go jump in a damn lake you worthless bigot.
Been doing it for years? The longer you get away with a crime the less a crime it becomes?
Get out our country if offended go where women can’t do anything but clean and prostitue.
22 hours ago via mobile
Sorry, I had to leave the text exactly as it was written.
My daughter and her friends showing their school pride at HMS today! Feeling proud!
I don’t know of any school group that isn’t headed by teachers. You can’t trust kids. Look what happened when god gave people free will. He had to drown everyone, lets not drown high school kids.
And that was so much with that.
Amber Barnhill has described how her experience with the school system destroyed her allegiance with Christianity:
Channel 12 first met Barnhill when she objected to officially mandated Christian prayers at her son’s public school pre-kindergarten class. In the wake of that news segment, Barnhill said she was the object of an outpouring of rage and abuse, including death threats.
The nastiness of the response, she said, contributed to her loss of faith in religion.
“That’s not why I lost my faith in God,” Barnhill said. “But it did have a huge impact on how quickly that happened.”
Barnhill said that she was raised in a strict, fundamentalist Christian home and graduated from seminary school. She has written an essay, “A Christian who Wasn’t Cross,” to document the evolution of her beliefs.
She told Channel 12, however, that her stance isn’t so much against religion as against children being forced to choose faith over secularism.
In case the point has been missed, it’s not only non-believes who object to school systems that violate the law. Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Buddhists, as well have heartburn with these practices.
I have not viewed Aron’s second clip. Here’s a link to it.
China, Texas, is the face of a larger problem, and not just in Texas:
Meanwhile, as pseudo-Christians in China attack atheists for not wanting their child to be indoctrinated in her school, in Katy, Texas, the school board dealt with a controversy. Well, it was a controversy for the Fundie crowd.
It seems that 7th-grader Jordan Wooley accused her teacher of making her “choose between her grades and her faith” during a lesson in critical thinking. The lesson asked students to state whether a subject was fact, opinion, or a commonplace assertion. When Wooley was asked which category God fit into, she answered “fact.” She was informed that was incorrect, that God is a commonplace assertion.
The above discussion of social media posts contains references to Kountze Independent School District in Texas:
The Freedom From Religion Foundation is the same group that requested Kountze ISD prohibit Scripture banners from high school football games. That case is still winding its way through state courts. In the meantime, the cheerleaders are still using the Bible banners at football games.
Much is said in this about my religious liberty. I don’t feel my person religious liberty is being violated, since I am not one of those being indoctrinated at public expense. It’s more as though my pocket is being picked when public officials take money intended for one purpose and spend it to promote their personal agenda. Somewhere one of the Ten Commandments is being violated.
There are generally no laws dictating that government entities avoid promoting religion. Whenever a case comes up the recourse for plaintiffs is to file civil action. Nobody gets arrested. Nobody goes to jail. It’s the taxpayers who take it on the chin when loose-thinking officials ignore the law. We have the voters to thank for putting such people into positions of trust.
There will be more to come. Keep reading. And may Jesus have mercy on your soul.