I keep wondering why I have to do this time and again. And then I remember. Human stupidity.
Here are snippets from a Facebook conversation that caught my attention. First the opening, posted by JP, with minor edits:
September 13 at 7:14 pm
More than just a little ‘tongue in cheek’, but a great message anyway that hits at the heart of the left’s irrational hatred of people of biblical faith.
Who Will Rid Us of These Christians? They’ve Done Something Else Now. | The Resurgent
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So I am just now looking into TheResurbent.com. Here are some current headlines on the site:
Yes, it’s that last item that got posted to Facebook. It’s by Erick Erickson, and it’s interesting to see what it’s about.
If you believe in the “imaginary sky god” you are treated with utter contempt by the left these days. Your Jesus is a bigot unless he is not the real Jesus and you people are contemptible bigots. In Georgia, even the Republicans hate you and are planning on revising adoption laws to prohibit Christians from helping the state place children in adoption and foster families. You would think Christians would learn from all of this, but instead they have gone and done something even more ridiculous to highlight just how absurd they are.
Christians across America have contributed more personal funds and more sweat equity than any other group in organized efforts helping the people of Texas and now Florida and Georgia due to Harvey and Irma. In fact, Christian non-profits like the North American Mission Board, Salvation Army, and Samaritan’s Purse have been more active in helping FEMA than the Red Cross or other secular non-profits. In fact, in Miami, the Red Cross did not even show up to run shelters that were designated as Red Cross shelters.
But those silly Christians have stepped in. They have proven even more ridiculous because FEMA will not help Christian churches damaged by Harvey or Irma rebuild. Everybody else can get disaster relief funds to help rebuild destroyed property, but not those Christians. They are on their own. And still they keep helping FEMA and everyone else.
Christian non-profits were the first on the scene after Harvey and were the first on the scene as Irma was blowing through Florida and Georgia. They took on the obligations of other non-profits that did not show up to help. And really, as every good Democrat knows, these Christians should not be out doing anything other than baking cakes for gay weddings. They’re just so ridiculous.
Lest any reader missed the point of the headline’s wording, it is historical:
“Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?” (or turbulent priest) is a cry attributed to Henry II of England, expressing his frustration regarding his conflicts with Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170. While this was not a direct order, upon hearing this comment from their sovereign, four knights—Reginald FitzUrse, Hugh de Morville, William de Tracy and Richard le Breton—traveled from Normandy to Canterbury and killed Becket.
See, the king’s language is supposed to have been a code to the knights to do the deed, leaving the king’s hands clean of blood.
The gist of the posting is that Christian churches have stepped up to the plate and provided relief where the government fell short, yet FEMA will not use tax money to assist reconstructing damaged churches. There may or may not be an issue there, but what caught my attention was the first sentence, “If you believe in the ‘imaginary sky god’ you are treated with utter contempt by the left these days.”
Getting back to the Facebook conversation, a response to that by DM:
Many take issue that Christianity is biblical faith – that it is “the faith once and for all delivered to the saints”. Even John Hagee has recently confessed, “Christianity is rooted in many pagan doctrines”. Doctrine is everything.
The John Hagee reference is to a pastor close to where I currently live in San Antonio, Texas:
To put this straight, a ten-thousand-ton rock, that has been on a collision course with Earth for likely millions of years, finally succumbed to the laws of physical science and completed its journey to the surface of Earth about a thousand miles east of Moscow, just north of the Kazakhstan border with Russia. And this was a message from God? Considering it may have been, the message was what? We are left to figure that out. Everybody gets his own shot at interpretation. Mine is that this was to herald the release, six days later, of Terry George‘s Stand Off. I’ve been wrong before.
In any event, God certainly does move in mysterious ways, his miracles to perform. Equally mysterious would be if God were to clue in to social media to push his roll outs.
Pastor Hagee refers to astronomy as “God’s High-Definition Billboard” (page 16). And he quotes Acts 2: 19– 20:
If you are not already aware, Pastor Hagee’s Cornerstone Church is massive, located at the intersection of Stone Oak Parkway and Sonterra Place. I receive periodic emails from Hagee’s Christians United For Israel.
All that said, let’s continue with the conversation. After a number of additional exchanges I felt the need to chime in:
John Blanton “Irrational hatred?” How about shocked dismay? Biblical faith is one of the dumbest concepts to plague humanity in recorded history.
Well, that was engineered to produce a reaction of some sort. Here is the first, from JP:
John Blanton: OK, so you are a man of no discernable faith who mocks those of discernable faith. All you demonstrate is an unwillingness to engage the real world where truth often is stranger than fiction and where the senses really do not tell even most of the story. Trust me when I say your mockery of others doesn’t in any way become you.
I didn’t fix the spelling.
First, “a man of no discernible faith.” Of course that is premature. I do have faith, but I try not to have faith in false and foolish things. I may have commented subsequently that I have faith the sun will come up in the east.
Second, “an unwillingness to engage the real world where truth often is stranger than fiction and where the senses really do not tell even most of the story.” Here’s an open challenge. Who wants to claim that religious faith, especially the God of Abraham, represents the real world? While I agree that sometimes truth is stranger than fiction and that sometimes fiction seems to make a lot of sense, there is no way that our senses interact in a discernible way with the faith in question. Specifically, the God of whom JP speaks, has neither been seen nor heard by any person, nor have there been any material actions that are attributable to this God. JP’s impression of what represents the real world is extraordinarily disjoint.
Third, “I say your mockery of others doesn’t in any way become you.” It does not? It certainly does become me. It is the moral duty of any thinking person to put the lie to this kind of nonsense and to hound it “around perdition’s flame” until it finally expires of a mountain of shame.
DK, an actual acquaintance and a Facebook friend added this:
It’s far easier to throw tomatoes than to grow them.”
JP added to DK’s response:
Yes it is. And that truth holds for both Blanton’s off subject post as it does for those who accuse practicing Christians of being pagans, though we may certainly disagree about the efficacy of individual practices.
First of all, DK’s tomato allegory is an allegory to end all. What an incredible summation! My response was:
John Blanton It helps when you are given tomatoes to throw. And let’s not talk about “faith.” Let’s talk about presence of mind. What straight-thinking person believes all this malarkey?
Of course, my tomato allegory was equally weak. I added a response:
John Blanton Do I call Christians Pagans? Do I call Pagans Christians? Do I call Christians Muslims? Do I call Muslims Christians? Do I call Christians Jews (close to the truth)? Do I call Jews Christians? Inquiring minds want to know.
Yes, my correspondents missed completely that I did not call Christian’s pagans, and at this point I waxed satirical.
There is much more to this conversation, and I made an attempt to capture all of it, hopefully to return to it when the occasion arises.
To the point, religion, and especially the so-called Judeo-Christian faith (includes Islam), is a large heap of BS, and righteous people need to be open and to point this out on a daily basis. As it is, there are people out there with this religious mindset, and they vote. Public policy is set, laws are passed, damage is done. Do not stand idle.